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X. AMERICAN STATE TRIALS.

to the dresaing room. In going
to the office from the closets one
would pasa the dressing room
and Mary's machine within two
or three feet. Mr. Frank would
pgss through the metal depart-
ment looking around every day.

Crose-ezamined. Standing at
the time eloek you can’t see inte
Mr. Frank’s private office, A
person wouldn’t see from Mr.
Frauk’s office any one coming in
or out of the building; worked
at the factory five years. In that
time Mr. Frank spoke to me
three times. Never saw Mr.
Frank speak to Mary Phagan or
Mary Phagan speak to Mr.
Frank. When Mr. Frank came
through the metal department he
never spoke to any of the girls;
just went through and looked
eround.

John R, Black, Am a city po-
Heeman; went over to Frank's
‘house with Boots Rogers. Mrs.
Frank eathe to the door; stated
that I would like to see Mr.
Frank; Mr. Frauk stepped out
from behind a curtain. hs voice
was hoarse and trembling and
nervous and excited; asked if
something had happened at the
peneil factory and if the night
watehman had reported it;
asked him if he knew Mary
Phagan; told him she had been
found desd in the basement of
the peneil factory. He said be
didn’t know any girl by the name
of Mary Phagan, that he knew
very few of the employes; at the
underteker’s Mr, Frank gave a
casual glance at her and stepped
aside; couldn’t say whether he
saw the face of the girl or not.
He eaid as we left that he didn’t
Know the girl but he believed he
had paid her off on Saturday;
thought he recognized her being
at the factory on Saturday by

the dress that she wore but he
could tall by going over to the
factory and looking at his cash
book. At the pencil factory he
took the slip ouf, and said it had
been punehed correctly. Tues-
day night Mr. Seott and myself
suggested to Mr. Frank to talk
to Newt Lee. Mr. Frank spoke
well of the negro, said he had
always found him trusty and hon-
est. They went in a room and
stayed from about 5 to 10 min-
utes alone. Mr, Frank stated
that Newt still stuck to the story
that he knew nothing about it.
Mr. Frank stated that Mr. Gantt
was there on Saturday evening
and that he told-‘Newt Lee to let
iim go and. get the shoes but to
watch ‘him, as he knew the sur-
roundings of the offiea. After
this eonversation Gantt was ar-
rested. Frank made no objee-
tions to talking to Newt Lee. He
was nervous on Monday. After
his release he seemed very jovial.

Crose-ezamined. At the eor-
oner’s inquest Mr. Frank an-
swered every question readily. At
the pencil factory Mr. Frank
went to the safe and unlocked it,
got the book, ran his finger down
until he came to the name of
Mary Phagan, and says, “Yes,
this little girl worked here and
T paid ‘her $1.20 yesterday.” We
went all over the factory that
day. Nobody saw that blood
spot that morning; must have
‘been thirty people there during
that day. Mr. Starnes was there
with me. He didn’t call atten-
tion to any blood spots. Chief
Lanford was there, and he didn’t
diseover any blood spota; found
a bloody shirt in the bottom of a
clothes barrel at Newt Lee's on
Tuesday morning.

J, M. Gantt, Was shipping
clerk at National Pencil Com

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