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LEO M. FRANK.

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colored, and she seemed to have
a gash in her head; her mouth
was full of sawdust and he de-
sevibed her in a general way; he
did not say anything to me
about an attorney or having
been to police headquarters. [
had not then employed counsel;
my sending Mr. Herbert Haas to
gee Mr. Frank was not employ-
ing counsel; made no trade with
Mr. Haas; don’t know who is
paying his fee; have not con-
tributed anythmg -towards it,
nor has the Peneil Company.

Truman McCrary. Am a
drayman; work for the National
Pencil Company; would work on
Saturday afternoons imtil half
past three and sometimes as late
‘as five; have never found the
front door loeked on a Saturday
afternoon; have never seen Jim
Conley watching there Saturday
afternoon; have never seen him
guarding the door; have never
seen him around the factory at
all Saturday afternoon; have
never found the doors to Mr,
Frank’s inner or outer office
locked; both doore have glese
windows in them; anybody could
see through them; have some-
times found Mr. Schiff working
there with Mr. Frank on Satur-
day afternoon; did not see Jim
Conley at the factory April
26th; did not tell him to go
down in the elevator ahaft and
ease his bowels; went into Mr.
Frank’s offiee about twelve
o'eloek on April 28th; Mr, Frank
was there.

D. J. Nic. Was office boy at
the pencil factory; on Saturday
afternoons, Mr, Frank and Mr.
Sehiff would be there working;
would stay in the outer office;
never left the factory on Satur-
day afternoon; have never

known Mr. Frank to have any
women in his office drinking or
doing anything else.

Frank Payne. Was office boy
last Thanksgiving day at the
pencil factory; Mr. Schiff and
Mr, Frank were working there
in the office that day. Have nev-
er known him to have any wom-
en in there, or see any drinking
going on.

Phillip Chambers. December
12, 1912, was office boy at the
pencil factory until Mareh 29,
1913; stayed in the outer office;
on Saturdays I stayed until 4:30
and sometimes until 5 o'clock;
Mr. Frank never did have any
women in there; never saw any
drinking there; uever seen Dal-
ton come in there; have seen Jim
Conley sweeping there Saturday
afternoon; Snowball would be in
there ones in a while; never
known the front door to be
locked Saturday afternoon;
never seen anybody watching
the door on any Saturday; have
seen Mr. Frank's wife eome to
his office; Mr. Schiff would be
helping him some of the Satur-
days; never seen Mr. Frank
familiar with any of the women
in the foctory; never seen him
talk to Mary Phagan.

Godfrey Weinkauf. Am su-
perintendent of the Pencil Com-
pany’s lead plant; visited the of-
flee of the factory every other
Saturday, between 3 and 5
o'dock; would find Mr. Hollo-
way, Mr. Frank and Mr. Sehiff
there; never saw any women in
the office there; never saw Jim
Conley there Saturday after-
noons.

Charlie Lee. Am a machinist
at the pencil factory; Duffy’s fin-
ger was burt on the eyelet ma-
chine October 4, 1912; the blood

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