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a few questions about it;” and I ssid, What did New: Loe say;
‘Well, Chief Lanford will tell you when you get down there.”
When I got down to police headquarters, Chief Lanford hadn’t
come down yet, I waited around the ofice possibly an Sour, chat
ting and talking to the officers. Later Chief Lanford came in and
says: “Come here,” and beckoned to me; and I went with him
and went into his room, in his office, and while I was in there, to the
best of my recollection, anyhow it is my impression now, that this
very time slip, on which at that time that “taken ont at 8:26,”
wih the two lines under it, had not heen erased, was shown to me,
and in looking over it and studying it carefully, I found where the
interval of an hour had cecurred three times during the time that
Newt Lee had been punching on that Saturday night, April 26th,
‘When I hed first looked at it, I only noticed that every line had a
punch on it, but I didn’t notice what time the punch marks them-
selves were on; this time I studied the slip carefully, it was the
same slip I had taken out of the clock, Chief Lanford or one of
the officers handed it to me at police headquarters, which I abso-
lutely identified with the writing which was on it, which you can
readily sea if you look now, even though it has been erased. There

to be some altercation about Mr. Rosser coming in that
room, and I heard Mr. Rosser say: “I am going into that room,
that man is my elient;” that was the first intimation I had that Mr.
Rosser was going to look after my interests in this matter, Chief
Beavers stated that he nranted me to give him a statement, and he
said: “Mr. Frank, will you give us a statement?” And I said:
Certainly, After I had given the statement, I overheard Mr.
Rosser say: “Why, it is preposterous, a man who would have done
such a deed must be full of scratches and marks and his ¢lothing
most be bloody.” I tarned and jumped up and showed them my
underclothing and my top shirt and my body, I bared it to them
all that came within the range of their vision, I had everything
open to them, and all they had to do was to look and see it, After
that, Mr. Rosser insisted that two of the detectives, Mr. Black and
another detective, accompany Mr. Hass, Mr. Herbert Hass, and
myself to my home and look over my soiled clothing for the past
week, which I anticipated had not been given to the washwoman.
They complied with this request, The detectives immediately went
uptairs to my room with Mr. Haas and myself, and I took the
laundry bag in which my soiled laundry is always kept and emptied
it out on the bed, and they examined each and every article of
clothing that I had disearded that past week, and I again opened
the clothing which I was then wearing, and which was the brown
suit I have here, this brown suit is the same suit I wore that Sat-
urday, Apri! 26th, and Monday, April 28th, and I have worn that
suit continuously since then until the weather became so hot, and
it has neither been pressed nor cleaned since them. The detectives
were evidently perfeetly well satisfied with what they had seen there,
and they left without any further remarks with Mr. Haas. After
dinner, I telephoned down to the office and to Mr. Schiff, and told
him to get Mr. Montag’s permission for the Peneil Company to put

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