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and used profanity and worried him to get a confession.
Hooper thinks that we have to break down Conley’s testimony
on the stand, but there is no such ruling. You can’t tell when
to believe him, he has lied so much. Scott says the detectives
went over the testimony with Dorsey. There is where my
friend got into it. They grilled Conley for six hours, trying
to impress on him the fact that Frank would not have written
the notes on Friday, They wanted another statement. He
insisted that he had no other statement to make, but he did
change the time of the writing of the notes from Friday to
Saturday. This shows, gentlemen, as clearly as anything can
ahow, how they got Conley’s statementa. In the statement of
May 29, they had nothing from Jim Conley about his knowl-
edge of the killing of the little girl, and the negro merely said
that Frank had told him something about the girl having
received a fall and about his helping Frank to hide the body.

‘Oh, Conley, we are going to have you tell enough to have
you convict Frank and yet keep yourself clear. That's a
smart negro, that Conley. And you notice how the state
bragged on him because he stood up under the cross-examina-
tion of Colonel Rosser. Well, that negro’s been well versed in
law. Scott and Black and Starnes drilled him; they gave him
the broad hints.

‘We came here to go to trial, and knew nothing of the
negro’s claim to seeing the cord around the little girl’s neck,
or of his claim of seeing Lemmie Quinn go into the factory,
or of a score of other things. Yet, Conley was then telling the
truth, he said, and he had thrown Frank aside. Oh, he was no
longer shielding Frank, and yet he didn’t tell it all when he
aaid he was telling the whole truth. Well, Conley had a reve-
lation, you know. My friend Dorsey visited with him seven
times. And my friend, Jim Starnes, and my Irish friend,
Patrick Campbell, they visited him, and on each visit Conley
saw new light. Well, I guess they showed him things and
other things. Does Jim tell a thing because it’s the truth,
gentlemen of the jury, or because it fits into something that
another witness has told? Scott says they told him things

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