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X. AMERICAN STATE TRIALS.

When sho returned from the
card party, money was talked
about then, She stated that if
she left her husband and left
town she would have to have a
gum of money or securities or
bonds that would yield three
thousand dollars per annum,

‘After the eonference wes
over I told her we would take it
under advisement, and see her
further.

‘As to the question, if we led
her to believe on that occasion
that we would let her have some
money if she would leave town,
I don't think wo led her to be-
ieve it, Mr. Cooper, but in de-
veloping the plot we avoided it
a much as possible, or doing
anything that would arouse sus-
picion, because I wanted to keep
them going until they got to the
end of it, ;

The next conversstion with
Mrs, Hirsch after that was on
Sunday over the telephone when
she told me her husband had ar-
rived in the city and had also left
that Sunday. I thought you in-
duded telephone conversations
in your question, I requested
her to call me over the telephone.

‘Then the next personal confer-
ence T had with her was on Tues
day morning when Asa Candler,
Jr, was present. That was the
last conversation I had with her.
Tho reason I ealled Asa Candler,
Jr, in, my brother George was
on’ the other conference, and I
called Asa Candler, Jr., to hear
shat she had to say on tho last
conference, and she met us at the
last conference at my solicita-
tion,

T did not on that oeeasion hold
ont any inducements to her that
we would pay her money if she
would leave town. I think she

thought she was going to get it.
I don’t think it required any
making to get her to believe she
was going to get it. I think they
thought they were going to get it.

I have narrated the first and
second conference with Cook;
the third conference was Satur-
day afternoon when we walked
from Thrower’s office down to
the lower end of Alabama street,
and it was held there nearly op-
posite the headquarters of the
Fire Department, I met him at
Thrower’s office, but had no con-
versation with him there, I did
not go in Thrower's office. He
never made any demand on me
for money on that oceasion. He
was standing at the eutrance of
Thrower’s office, and there are
plate glass doors there, and no
private offiee in Thrower’s office
that I know of, and I motioned
to him, and he came ontside im-
mediately to the sidewalk and we
walked off down the street to
talk.
I never suggested to Cook he
get the woman out of town. I
never offered him anything to get
her out of town; Cook was the
man who wanted us to get her
out of town. I never did offer
Cook any money to get her out
of town nor for any other pare
poss, and Cook never made any
demand for money on me to get
her out of town.

I controlled these conferences,
and Candler had nothing to do
with them. I mean Mr. Candler,
Sr. The conferences I had with
Cook were in the absence of Mr.
Candler. The demand of Mr.
Cook on Mr. Candler was made
directly to him and in my ab-
sence. No demand was made on
me in the absence of Mr. Candler.

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