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of elevator shaft; then went back and I showed him where the offi-
cer said tha slipper had been found, the hat had been found and the
ttle girl’s body was located. I showed him, in fact, everything that
Oe are the pencil factory about 8:30; immedi
iday I arrived at i jont 8:30; i i
ately entered upon my rontine work sending the various orders to
the various places in the factory where they were due to go; a lit-
tle later detectives Scott and Black came up to the factory and
said:. “Mr. Frank, we want you to go down to headquarters with
us,” and I went with them. We went down to headquarters and
have been incarcerated ever since. Detective Scott and detective
Black showed me a little piece of material of some shirt and asked
me if I had a shirt of that material; told them I didn’t think I ever
‘had a ehirt of that description; they brought in Newt Lee, the
nightwatchman from a cell and showed him the sample; he said he
had a shirt like that but didn’t remember having worn it for invo
years, Detectives Scott and Black then opened a package they had
and disclosed the full shirt of that material that had all the ap-
pearance of being freshly stained with blood, and had a very dis-
tinet odor, Newt Lee was taken back to the eell. After a time Chief
Langford came over to me and began an examination of my face
and of my head and my hands and my arms. Detective Starnes took
me down to the desk it where they searched me and entered
my name on the book under a charge of suspicion. Detectives Seott
and Black came in at midnight, Tuesday, April 20th, and said:
“Mr. Frank, we would like to talk to you a little bit.” They stressed
the Pomibity of couples having been let into the factory at night
by the night watchman, Newt Lee, I told them that I didn’t know
anything about it, thet if I had, TI certainly would have put @ stop
to it long ago. They eaid: “Mr, Frank, you have never talked
alone with Newt Lee. You are his boss and he respecta you, Sea
what you can do with him. We can't get anything more out of
him, see if you can.” I says: “All right, I understand what you
mean; I do my best,” use I waa only too willing to help.
Black eays: “Now put it strong to him, put it strong to him, and
tell him to cough up and tell all he knows. Tell him that you are
here and that he is here and thet he better open up and tell all he
knows about happenings at the penail factory that Saturday night,
or you will both go to hell.”
2 few minutes detective Starnes brought up Newt Lee from
‘the cell room and handeuffed ‘him to a chair. I spoke to him at some
length in there, but I couldn't get anything additional out of him,
He said he knew nothing about couples coming in there at night,
and remembering the instruetions Mr. Black had given me I said:
“Now, Newt, you are here and I am here, and you had better open
up and tell all you know, and tell the truth and tell the fall truth,
because you will get us beth into lots of trouble if you don’t tell all
zw know,” and be answered me like an old negro: “Before Gad,
. Frank, T am telling you the trath and I have told you all f
know." And the conversation ended right there, Within a min-
ute or two afterwards the detectives came back into the room, that

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