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332 XY, ‘AMERICAN STATE TRIALS.

0. K.'d the ticket and I went on with my work.” So Frank
‘was up there Tuesday morning.

“Now, speaking about Mra, Carson, how far towards the
elevator did Mrs, Carson go with Frankt A.—‘‘Mrs. Car-
son wasn’t up there, it was Miss Carson, Miss Rebecca.’’
The old lady says ahe was; I said, ‘‘Oh, the old lady wasn’t
‘up there at all?’ No, sir; she wasn’t there Tuesday at all.’”
“*You saw Miss Rebecca Carson walking up towards the
elevator ?’” ‘Yes sir.” “What waa Covley doing?” ‘‘Stand-
ing there by the elevator.’ And yet Jim has lied about
Frank! Frank wes up there twice, Jim was sweeping, Jim
was there by the elevator. “At the time you saw Frank,
the negro was standing there at the elevatort’”’ ‘Yes, air;
he wasn’t sweeping, he was atanding there with his hand on
the track looking around.’ “Did he sea you and Frank?’’
“T guess he must have seen ua.”? ‘Where was Conley when
he went down the steps?” ‘Standing in front of the eleva-
tor.” “How close did Frank pass Conley?” ‘‘As close as
from here to that table, about four feet.’ ‘Conley was still
standing there with his hand on that thing, is that true?’’
“Yes sir.’?

*“That’s exactly like Conley says.’ And here’s another
thing: This woman, Mrs. Small, testifies about that eleva-
tor,—it shakes the whole building, I said, anybody in the
world could tell it if the machinery wasn’t running?! Shoe
says, “‘No, anybody in the world could tell it if the machin-
ery wasn’t running, but you ean’t notice it unless you are
close to the elevator.”? I asked ‘If there was hammering
and knocking, would you stil! hear the elevator!’’ She said,
“You could if you get close to it’? Well, of course, you could,
nobody disputes that. “If the elevator was up here, and
you were back in the rear and there was hammering and
knocking going on, you couldn’t?”? “‘No air.” And that dis-
poses of that point, that’s the truth on that,

Now, Mrs. Carson had already sworn here positively that
she didn’t go down to see that blood, hasnt she? There were
too many of these people over there at the factory who had

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