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134 XY. AMERICAN STATE TRIALS.

think from what I see of the
Mexican’s track, that she was a
dull sailer, and there would be
full a difference of one-third, be-
tween her and a Baltimore clip-
per, in smooth water. The meet-
ing’ of the Panda and Mexican,
the one sailing on the 20th from
Havana, and the other from Sal-
em, on the 29th, would be very
improbable, but’ not impossible.
I should thiuk the Panda would
be at the Cape de Verda by the
20th of September. To pass
through the Bahama Channel,
and reseb 30 N., would occupy,
in my opinion, about five days.

Cross-ezamined, My opinion
thst the vessels would not meet,
is based upon the supposition
that neither would meet with any
accident or hindrance,

Samuel Austin Turner, Have
been six years a midshipman in
the United States Navy. Have
made voyages to the Hast Indies.
Know the Mexican, Should
think, in a royal breeze, she
would run six knots, while a clip-
per would sail one-third faster.
In a fresh, fair wind, the differ-
ence would be smalier—perhaps
none at all. Don’t think the brig
would ever have the advantage
of the clipper. Never sailed in
a clipper, nor through the Ba-
hama Channel. Do not think the
Mexican and Panda would meet
3the one sailing on the 20th and
the other on the 29th of August,
Am of opinion they would be one
hundred miles apart.

Gross-ezamined. My opinion
is predieated on the belief that
both vessels made the beat of
their way.

W. 8. Bruce. Am somewhat
acquainted with Bernardo de
Soto. Have resided several years
at the Havana, and my knowl-

edge of the prisoner commenced
in the fall of ‘31. De Soto was
then captain of the Spanish brig
Leon, from Philadelphia to Ha-
vana, During one of his voy-
ages from Philadelphia to the
latter place, he saved and
bronght in the crew and passen-
gers of the American ship Min-
etva, which had taken fire. The
passengers were thirty or forty
in number (chiefly Irish) going
to New Orleans or Mobile. De
Soto’s conduct was very highly
spoken of at the time in Havana,
and he was presented with a
piece of plate, by the merchants
of New Orleans, Don’t know
that any one has asked him (de
Soto) to become a witness
against rest of prisoners, Dis-
trict Attorney did not request me
to go to him. Did not intimate
to moe his wish or willingness that
de Soto should be a witness
Should not have conjectured
anything of the kind from the
Distriet Attorney’s conversation.
Formed my opinion of the Dis-
triet Attorney's wishes from
what was told me by # third per-
son. That person was Charles
W. Story. told de Soto that
he had better become a witness.

Mr. Dunlap. Had you ever
conversed with me before you
saw de Soto? Yes, both before
and afterwards. Recolleet your
self. You did not say anything
particular the first time, Did
you ever converse with me more
than oneef No. Did you not,
upon that cecasion, state to ms
what had passed between your-
self and de Soto? Yes, Then,
of course, sir, you never con-
versed with me before you saw
de Soto.

My. Bruce. As to persons et-
gaged in the slave trade, being

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