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I would stay in the outer office. I never left the factory on Saturday afternoon. I have never known Mr.Frank to have any women in his office drinking or doing anything else.
CROSS EXAMINATION. I never stayed in the factory Saturday afternoon in the Summer months. Every other Saturday afternoon then I got off at one o'clock. No I don't know anything about Mr.Schiff and Mr. Frank and others taking women down the alley on Forsyth St. and around the back door. He said did not have any women in the factory when I was there, and I worked every Saturday after the first of September until the first of October. In the Summer I worked every other Saturday afternoon.

FRANK PAYNE. Sworn for the defendant.

I was office boy last thanksgiving day at the pencil factory. It was snowing that day. I am 16 years old. Mr.Schiff and Mr.Frank were working there in the office that day. Mr.Schiff sent me up on the fourth floor to straighten the boxes up. Jim Conley was there sweeping. He left the factory about 10.30. I left about 11. He had finished his work. I went by the office to get my coat. Mr.Schiff and Mr.Frank were still working. When I left I did not see Conley anywhere about the door. For two months I worked at the factory on Saturday afternoons until 3.30 or four. Mr.Schiff and Mr.Frank would always be working in the office. I have never known him to have any women in there, or see any drinking going on, I would go to dinner about 1 to 3 o'clock. Mr.Frank would go about 12.30 to one and get back about three. I would stay in the inner office all the time. Mr.Schiff sat right across from me in the inner office. I would go to Montag's and stay about ten or fifteen minutes.
CROSS EXAMINATION. I quit work at the factory seven or eight months ago to get a better job. Mr.Schiff was with Mr.Frank every Saturday afternoon I was there. I never went back at nights. I have never seen any beer bottles around there. I don't know whether Jim Conley came back after he left there at 10.30 on Thanksgiving Day. I saw him go down the stairs. I did not look for him as I went down. I did not notice him.

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